The following is a transcript of you tube messages sent back and forth between myself and a Muslim that is convinced he's right about Islam being a "religion of peace"
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Sent to: Admiral Hackett
07/20/13
because of the word limit
I better be done with you? is that what you said?
you actually think I need your permission for anything? I'm not Muslim a woman without a brain or courage to stand on her own, I don't need a man to have a decent life, I diffidently don't need some control freak like yourself trying to tell me what to do, you need to get a life, the reason Muslim men are so controlling, as well as marrying children, as well as always raping women is because a grown woman wouldn't want your sorry asses to begin with, perhaps if you learn how to actually treat women and show them an ounce of respect, then maybe women would give your asses the time of day
NOW I'm done with your sorry ass, I don't give a shit what you think about me, you can toss out the insults but you can't take them, then fuck off and go kill yourself and see how many people mourn your sorry ass
Sent to: VegasLady41
07/20/13
Objet :because of the word limit
I am married, my wife doesnt cover herself, we both have simple jobs.
I make dinner most of the time.
We dont have children yet as we are young.
We only have a cat.
And about respect, believe me even arguing seems like telling jokes between us.
This is not the case with many Muslims. just as it is not the case with many Americans.
And the point of all this is that Islam has nothing to do with people psychology,
Blame the gouvernment that doesnt take care of lunatics, and sick people.
Blame the parents for raising narrowminded cavemen, and yes specially in 3rd world countries, you can take a guess
For example why Women in Afghanistan are treated bad compared to women in Dubei and Lebanon where they have full freedom, is it not the same Islam?
People are different, psychologies are different based on many factors,
In Iraq people die everyday, Muslims killing eachothers for food, money, water, comic books, allah, anything. because they have no future, they only think about water and food, some of them driven by rage and revenge, they create small organisations to kill the westerns, as it is because of them that society in many middle east countries is destroyed, i hope you know that.
You dont really expect me to insult you do you?
Because insults dont upset people around here anymore.
Sent to: Admiral Hackett
07/21/13
Re:Objet :because of the word limit
ok that was an enlightening reply, seeing how it wasn't a one sided talk down to an educated western Lady I will tell you my true feelings about Islam and Islamics
I don't care what you do in your lives, I don't care what religion you follow, in fact I could care less about how Islamics think they are the best in the world, the only thing I do care about is Islamics trying to take over the world and replace the Constitution and Bill of Rights with Sharia Law, and force everybody in the western world to either become Islamics or die
that's it, that's all I care about, I will fight in what ever way I can to ensure Sharia Law doesn't rule America as it has slowly being done in the UK, from their own mouths I hear Islamics saying how they will take over the UK, turn Buckingham Palace into a Mosque, and the USA is next, when I heard those things from their own mouths, not from non Muslims, but Muslims demanding that country bend over backwards for their wants and desires, that's when I had enough of the BS, and that's when I told myself I as a freedom loving American will do what ever I can to ensure I never fall pray to the actions that's being done to the native people of the UK
now as for you, I can say I'm glad your not like them, however when the % of Muslims in the USA doubles and triples, and becomes the majority of people in this country, will you still live as you are now, or will you turn coat and curse Americans outwardly as they are doing in the UK? if that is the case, then perhaps you should admit here and now that you don't give a crap about what this country stands for
Sent to: VegasLady41
07/21/13
Objet :Re:Objet :Re:Objet :because of the word limit
Trust me, it is not because you re a lady, or because they look down on you, it's because they see you as a threat, as someone mocking their religion by asking those questions..
I will answer all your questions ofcourse
I will try to cover every point in the subject based on my knowledge on Islam, the book. and Islamic world:
''why do you treat women the way you do?''
First let's take a look at what Quran says about women;
"And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women." [Quran 2:228]
"Who so does that which is right, and believes, whether male or female, him or her will We quicken to happy life." [Quran 16:97]
"For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward." [Quran 33:35]
Reading these verses, we can clearly understand that men and women have equally the same rights and the same value for Allah.
But againg we have this Verse, which speaks about family inheritance:
"To the male the equivalent of the portion of two females, and if there be women more than two, then theirs is two-thirds of the inheritance, and if there be one (only) then the half." Quran 4:11
Quran and Islam compared to the western world teaches that family should stay united forever, that if one falls there is always someone to back him up,
And if the father dies, it would be preferably that the brother has more money than the sistes, so he can protect them, while they enjoy a calm life.
Ofcourse it isnt always this way in the Islamic world, the big brother often turns out a prick, and things go bad for the family, including his sisters. if he is a head-strong lunatic, he forces his sisters to marry other men for better connections, power and money, and they forget about Quran teachings... even worse they use Islam as a shield, that can take dirt and blame instead of them.
I am surprised you didnt ask the question about marrying more than one woman...
The answer is in this world women outnumber men by double, and it keeps increasing, so you can actually marry more than one woman, only if they both agree, but it is only an act of good faith, if the other woman is poor, or cant continue forward, or cant find a man, a woman should always be protected compared to the man, so even if she fails in life, and times become hard. she can look for a married husband... Yeah i know it seems extreme, but there is a big picture here, i hope you see it.
But in some cases, women dont have any freedom, since the man marries 4 women because he has a lot of money, and doesnt care about the teachings, this is very common yes.
Muslims extremists in Saudi Arabia do not even allow a woman to drive, its not because of the Quran ofcourse, but because they use whatever they can to get power.
''why do you allow women to be victims when they are raped?''
This has been answered by many scholars, i ll try to qute some;
Raped women are not punished in Islam.
woman who has been raped cannot be asked to produce witnesses; her claim shall be accepted unless there are tangible grounds to prove otherwise. To insist that she provide witnesses is akin to inflicting further pain on her.
"And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations)- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;- (Quran 24:13)
"And those who accuse their wives, and have no witnesses but themselves, then the testimony of each of them shall be a testimony sworn by God repeated four times, that he is indeed truthful. And the fifth (oath) is that God's curse be upon him if he is lying. And it shall avert punishment from her that she testify a testimony repeated and sworn by God four times, that he is lying. And a fifth (oath) that the wrath of God be upon her, if he has spoken the truth" (An-Nur: 6-9).
If, after trying her best to resist the attack, she gets overcome by the assailants, she is totally absolved from punishment. Muslim scholars are unanimous on this. They maintain that any woman, who, despite doing her utmost to resist these thugs and their ilk, is raped, is not guilty of any sin. This is since the situation is beyond her control, and anyone who is forced to do something is not guilty of sin.
''why don't you allow women to become educated?''
This is very linked to what i said earlier, about the big brother or the father turns to be a prick, and he keeps the sisters or his wives inside the house with no education, and then his daughters marry wealthy men for connections, but some others they send their daughters to study abroad thats why you find a lot of Muslims girls in America and Europe, those who follow the exact teaching of the Quran and the prophet with no greed and no hypocrisy, because lets not forget that the devil exists, and his best ways to control people is by ; Sex, Money and reputation..
Quran encourages that you send you children to seek knowledge.
"....Are those equal, those who know and those who do not know? It is those who are endued with understanding that receive admonition. (Quran, 39:9)"
Muhammad pbuh said: ''If anyone travels on a road in search of knowledge, Allah will cause him to travel on one of the roads of Paradise. The angels will lower their wings in their great pleasure with one who seeks knowledge, the inhabitants of the heavens and the Earth and the fish in the deep waters will ask forgiveness for the learned man. The superiority of the learned man over the devout is like that of the moon, on the night when it is full, over the rest of the stars. The learned are the heirs of the Prophets, and the Prophets leave neither dinar nor dirham, leaving only knowledge, and he who takes it takes an abundant portion''
''why don't you allow women to have a voice?''
This is also linked to what i said before, but let me give you an example:
Morocco is a Muslim country, where women have the same jobs, the same voices as men
75% of people working in the Royal government are women. which makes that Politicians in Morocco are mainly women... its the same in Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Lebanon, Qatar, Pakistan ... ect
more than 50% of women in these countries dont cover their head...
Women are actually fighting for their freedeom in Saudi Arabia, yes they are fighting for their voice.
Saudi Arabia thinks they re protecting the value of the woman by not using it asa commercial tool, but they are actually going very far...
And about the other countries such as; Afghanistan, Iraq.. remember they have no society anymore, so its like the jungle in there, women with no power are not treated good, they re like toys, its sad yes, because there is the law of the savages, and not Islam... people in these places are ineducated, and its actually hard to improve.
If you have any question, or if i forgot something please remind me.
Sent to: Admiral Hackett
07/22/13
Re:Objet :Re:Objet :Re:Objet :because of the word limit
well I was going to wait and ease into that subject, I'm not rude, or try not to be, I treat others as they treat me, it's a karma thing with me, I give if I have it, and if it comes back to me great, if it doesn't, oh well there's always tomorrow
as for the rape question, I read what you put, however it's not the information I saw, a non-muslim woman raped in Dubai, and when she tried to report the rape, she was arrested, as were the 3 men that raped her also, but thing that gets me the most, and if a man denies this, he's a freaking retarded ass hat, women don't ask to be raped, and this woman was drugged and raped, she couldn't even say no or try and fight the 3 men that raped her
here is a short list of information I learned about Sharia Law
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife, but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be halal.
• Muslims should engage in taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
• The list goes on.
now referencing what you wrote me, it looks like this list is pretty accurate, so I'm not sure what to truly believe, the information I get comes from Muslim web sites, as well as videos of Muslims themselves, and those pretty mush say the same thing, "we will take over the UK, then work on the USA"
I'm not scared of religions, or politics, I just don't want to be left with no choices in my life, I'm not a bossy lady, in fact when it comes to a relationship I take the back seat as long as I'm not treated like a slave I'm fine, but when it comes to Sharia Law, I don't want to live under such a strict way of life, I would go bonkers really if I couldn't take a walk freely and just sight see my own city once in a while
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It is now July 25, and I still have not received a return message, so this tells me one of two things; he also feels threatened by a knowledgeable, wide awake American Lady, or he can't defend the truth when it's tossed back at him about the "religion" he defends with his life.
In any case, it's time for Americans to know Islamics won't accept the fact their "religion" is flawed at best, and down right out of date for the 21st century.
Wake up America, if you don't believe me, then dig up the information yourself and see the TRUTH.
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